The new characters

SurgeChris · 2010-07-21 03:44:25

I think I've got a workflow for characters now. In this example, I'm going to make up 7 people who will represent future participants in the art workflow. Their names would be Ben, Johnny, Tom, Sam, Daniel, Sally, and Monica.

First, someone such as Ben can draw the basic outlines and general details of the character (eyes, head shape, shoes, etc.)

Second, Sally has to get a copy of Ben's basic drawings and add even more details (eye colour, shoe style, folds on palms, etc.)

Now, Sally can continue to draw the specific poses of the characters which will be used to represent their feelings in the dialogues or let Monica take over the job. These two can help each other, because these pictures are big and full or details.

This can be done right after the detailed outlines are done. Tom can develop sprites for gameplay purposes.

This is the last section and the most complicated part of all. Since all the previous steps except for sprites should be done in pencil, at least three people have to develop all the pencil drawings (except for the basic outlines) into pixel arts. In this step, Sam can remake the outlines of the drawings in computer, Johnny can give basic colours, and Daniel finishes the pixel arts by adding very specific details such as shading, anti-aliasing, and much more.

I'm sorry if it's too complicated. I hope you can take your time to read and understand it. By the way, for disagreements, compliments, suggestions, and questions, please quote PART of the context before you reply, so that I know which part you agree or disagree or have trouble with.

Thank you for reading.

Alexandre · 2010-07-22 02:49:02

I'm sorry if it's too complicated. I hope you can take your time to read and understand it

That's way too bureaucratic for a medium-sized project like ours. Let's keep it simple. Concepts are the initial step of the Art workflow ( http://opensnc.sourceforge.net/wiki/ind … t_workflow ).

Drawing concepts and showing them to the community to get approval is okay. I'm glad you all are contributing, and I thank you all, but we need better concepts (i.e., better drawings). Let's start with Surge. Please post your improved concepts.

What have we got so far?
- "Surge" the Rabbit - http://opensnc.sourceforge.net/wiki/ind … the_Rabbit
- Game story - http://opensnc.sourceforge.net/wiki/ind … Game_Story
- Silver's concept #1 - http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1716/surgel.jpg (I don't see a problem with green rabbits)
- Silver's concept #2 - http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3748/surge2l.jpg
- Silver's concept #3 - http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/8756/surge3.png
- SoniChris' concept - http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5306/pic025z.jpg
- TheSeventhEmerald's concept - http://sites.google.com/site/theseventh … &width=400
Have I forgotten something?

We need improved drawings, pretty much like Felicia's concept of "Charge" the Badger. The improved concepts will be used to develop the sprites (see the Art workflow)

Please post your improved Surge concepts. Make sure it matches his brave personality (see the Game Story).

SurgeChris · 2010-07-27 03:50:09

May I upload my picture in the Wiki?

SurgeChris · 2010-07-27 06:33:26

Okay, so what kind of colours do you want? I've got the drawing ready (well, not finished, but looks good).

Alexandre · 2010-07-27 16:50:31

SoniChris wrote:

Okay, so what kind of colours do you want? I've got the drawing ready (well, not finished, but looks good).

Red. Surge is a brave character.

See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red

SoniChris wrote:

May I upload my picture in the Wiki?

Yes.

SurgeChris · 2010-07-28 02:37:26

Alexandre wrote:

SoniChris wrote:
Okay, so what kind of colours do you want? I've got the drawing ready (well, not finished, but looks good).
Red. Surge is a brave character.
See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red
SoniChris wrote:
May I upload my picture in the Wiki?
Yes.
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Will it be okay if I just recolor my first drawing?

Alexandre · 2010-07-28 03:38:57

You people can upload your drawings to the wiki. No need to ask for permission. Any contribution is valid. We just don't accept ripped or offensive content, but it's not the case here.

SoniChris, you may upload it, but in my opinion, in your first drawing Surge (sorry for the criticism) looks too much girly and not sufficiently confident. Maybe we should try something else?

SurgeChris · 2010-07-29 04:56:01

Alexandre wrote:

You people can upload your drawings to the wiki. No need to ask for permission. Any contribution is valid. We just don't accept ripped or offensive content, but it's not the case here.
SoniChris, you may upload it, but in my opinion, in your first drawing Surge (sorry for the criticism) looks too much girly and not sufficiently confident. Maybe we should try something else?
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OK, but it'll take quite a while. Maybe about one week or so.

Alexandre · 2010-07-30 20:46:50

Ramon, a friend of mine, has made some sketches of Surge. Some of them look to much like Sonic (I don't like them), but there are two that look good: the ones Surge wears a jacket and an earring (the one on the middle and the one that Surge is looking up)

SilverstepP · 2010-07-30 20:50:32

Alexandre wrote:

Ramon, a friend of mine, has made some sketches of Surge. Some of them look to much like Sonic (I don't like them), but there are two that look good: the ones Surge wears a jacket and an earring (the one on the middle and the one that Surge is looking up)

I like that design.

TheSeventhEmerald · 2010-08-01 14:27:53

I like that design.

Me too... but in my opinion, we can improve somethings... for example, make the eyes a little more triangular. It will give more caracter to Surge

SurgeChris · 2010-09-23 10:18:49

Hey! Sorry it had been two months. OK, I'll tell you what happened. I decided to stop trying to draw, but instead I will start EDITING sprites to make prototype sprites of Surge. I know this is not my original work, because the only purpose of this is to inspire other people who can do it better than me. I mad Surge's standing sprite in just a few minutes this afternoon, and here it is:

SilverstepP · 2010-09-23 12:23:31

SoniChris wrote:

Hey! Sorry it had been two months. OK, I'll tell you what happened. I decided to stop trying to draw, but instead I will start EDITING sprites to make prototype sprites of Surge. I know this is not my original work, because the only purpose of this is to inspire other people who can do it better than me. I mad Surge's standing sprite in just a few minutes this afternoon, and here it is:

I still can't see something Red or Orange going very fast, for some reason (I guess I played as Knuckles too many times?). I know he's brave, but really... I think a colder type of color is needed, like Green, Cyan, my personal choice, (Which could really work well with electric powers, mind you... the electric shield has a cyan feel, and it worked well, in my opinion), or even Blue (Although that could make it a Sonic Ripoff...)

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SurgeChris · 2010-09-23 12:33:34

SilverstepP wrote:

SoniChris wrote:
Hey! Sorry it had been two months. OK, I'll tell you what happened. I decided to stop trying to draw, but instead I will start EDITING sprites to make prototype sprites of Surge. I know this is not my original work, because the only purpose of this is to inspire other people who can do it better than me. I mad Surge's standing sprite in just a few minutes this afternoon, and here it is
I still can't see something Red or Orange going very fast, for some reason (I guess I played as Knuckles too many times?). I know he's brave, but really... I think a colder type of color is needed, like Green, Cyan, my personal choice, (Which could really work well with electric powers, mind you... the electric shield has a cyan feel, and it worked well, in my opinion), or even Blue (Although that could make it a Sonic Ripoff...)
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OK, thanks for the suggestions, but don't make me confused with a choice of five colours. Can you determine one colour first?

SilverstepP · 2010-09-23 12:58:44

Cyan.

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SurgeChris · 2010-09-23 13:10:29

Nah, forget the choice stuff. Here's all five designs (fourth from left (initial design) updated).

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frank50_s · 2010-09-23 13:27:00

I prefer the 4th character (orange)

SurgeChris · 2010-09-23 13:38:58

By the way, let's try YELLOW! (my favourite colour )

Alexandre · 2010-09-23 15:36:17

No, don't make it blue. Nor cyan. You're not playing Sonic the Hedgehog.

Like frank50_s, I also like the orange version better, but I think a silver Surge would be even better.

SilverstepP · 2010-09-23 17:36:00

Alexandre wrote:

No, don't make it blue. Nor cyan. You're not playing Sonic the Hedgehog.

Yeah, I saw that one coming... :-(

SurgeChris · 2010-09-24 03:19:50

Alexandre wrote:

No, don't make it blue. Nor cyan. You're not playing Sonic the Hedgehog.
Like frank50_s, I also like the orange version better, but I think a silver Surge would be even better.
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SILVER? Now, I'm gonna need a d*** lot of help in this one.
Regardless, let's try light gray (this one looks similar to an Arctic fox)

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SilverstepP · 2010-09-24 11:22:29

Too white...

KZR · 2010-09-25 21:37:07

i've been thinking about something mentioned earlier. if a blue surge would be a sonic rip off, so would a two tailed neon. and a gliding badger (which is some sort of hog), and of course a red rabbit to complete the list of freaky stuff. However Sonic's games were based in a fantasy world, and so is Surge's, but since such "weirdness" goes against some people's tastes, maybe the best would be having a rabbit's natural colors:

the colors on the second rabbit should fit surge's personality like a glove. and please those who chose orange, which i also think is the right color for surge, not forgetting white for details.

if a squirrel with two tails or even a helicopter hat seem too much fantasy, THERE ARE flying squirrels. but they don't fly, they glide, so if a gliding badger is off your standards, Neon could be a flying squirrel and replace Knuckles, but then... a flying badger??

what's your view on this, people?

SilverstepP · 2010-09-25 21:59:54

I know this is off-subject in a way, but maybe Charge SHOULDN'T be able to glide. Maybe we should just let him climb. Gliding is illogical and unnecessary when Neon is around... and he can just fly you himself. The climbing is what really seems to set him apart.

He has sharp claws, perfect for climbing stuff... and I've never heard of a flying badger.

KZR · 2010-09-25 23:03:55

SilverstepP wrote:

I know this is off-subject in a way, but maybe Charge SHOULDN'T be able to glide. Maybe we should just let him climb. Gliding is illogical and unnecessary when Neon is around... and he can just fly you himself. The climbing is what really seems to set him apart.
He has sharp claws, perfect for climbing stuff... and I've never heard of a flying badger.

i agree. but then the squirrel is the problem. helicopter hats? jetpacks? maybe. i'm on that side. as long it's only one character. then maybe since he's slower, smaller, and jumps less, that would give him reason to use an object that gives him a strong point, since he's the weakest in anything else.

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